August 12, 2024, at 1:00 PM

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The meeting was called to order at 1:00 PM; it being noted that Councillor E. Peloza was in remote attendance.

1.   Disclosures of Pecuniary Interest

That it BE NOTED that no pecuniary interests were disclosed.

2.   Consent

Moved by S. Trosow

Seconded by E. Peloza

That Items 2.2 and 2.3 BE APPROVED.

Motion Passed (5 to 0)

2.2   Video Streaming in Select City of London Arenas for Alliance Hockey Members

2024-08-12 - Staff Report (2.2) - Video Streaming in Select City of London Arenas

Moved by S. Trosow

Seconded by E. Peloza

That, on the recommendation of the Deputy City manager, Neighbourhood and Community-Wide Services, the following actions be taken with respect to the staff report, dated August 12, 2024, related to Video Streaming in Select City of London Arenas for Alliance Hockey Members:

a)    the proposed by-law, as appended to the above-noted staff report, BE INTRODUCED at the Council meeting to be held on August 27, 2024, to:

i)    approve the Video Streaming Agreement, as appended to the above-noted by-law, between the Greater London Hockey Association and The Corporation of the City of London;

ii)    authorize the Mayor and the City Clerk to execute the above-noted Agreement; and,

iii)    delegate authority to the Deputy City Manager, Neighbourhood and Community-Wide Services, or written designate, to approve and execute any further amendments to the above-noted Agreement if the amendments are substantially in the form of the above-noted Agreement;

b)    the above-noted staff report BE RECEIVED. (2024-M16)

Motion Passed

2.3   Amendment to Single Source Procurement SS-2024-189: Dearness Home PointClickCare.Com Master Service Agreement

2024-08-12 - Staff Report (2.3) - Amendment to Single Source Procurement SS-2024-189 Dearness Home PointClickCare.Com - Full

Moved by S. Trosow

Seconded by E. Peloza

That on the recommendation of the Deputy City Manager, Social and Health Development, the following actions be taken with respect to the staff report, dated August 12, 2024, related to an Amendment to the Single Source Procurement SS-2024-189 for the Dearness Home PointClickCare.Com Master Service Agreement:

a)    the amendment of the PointClickCare.com Master Service Agreement and Schedule of Exceptions to MSA (“MSA”), as appended to the above-noted staff report, as Schedule 1, Single Source contract file number SS-2024-189 with Pointclickcare Technologies Inc., BE APPROVED to include the PCC Nursing Advantage – Clinical Pathways module, and Dedicated Training Environment with the additional costs of $19,079.88 annually (total annual contract value of $65,269.62) plus a one time set up fee of $1,000;

b)    the approval given, herein, BE CONDITIONAL upon the Corporation entering into formal contracts to include the Nursing Advantage – Clinical Pathways module as appended to the above-noted staff report as Schedule 2, Dedicated Training Environment as appended as Schedule 3, RNAO’s Clinical Pathway License Agreement as appended as Schedule 4 and Nquire Data System Usage Agreement for Non-BPSOS as attached as Schedule 5;

c)    the proposed by-law, as appended to the above-noted staff report, BE INTRODUCED at the Municipal Council meeting of August 27, 2024, to:

i)    approve the amendment of the PointClickCare.com Master Service Agreement and Schedule of Exceptions to MSA (“MSA”), Single Source contract file number SS-2024-189, between PointClickCare Technologies Inc. (PCC Technologies”) and The Corporation of the City of London, to include the PCC Nursing Advantage – Clinical Pathways module, Dedicated Training Environment and related services fees as appended to the above-noted by-law;

ii)    approve the RNAO Clinical Pathway License Agreement and Nquire Data System Usage Agreement for Non-BPSOS, as appended to the above-noted by-law, between RNAO, 4211 Yonge Street, North York, Ontario, M2P 2A9 and The Corporation of the City of London; 

iii)    delegate authority to the Deputy City Manager, Social and Health Development and/or the City Manager, to:

A)    represent the City (City Representative) with respect to the above-noted MSA and RNAO proprietary agreements;

B)    execute the above-noted agreement on behalf of the City of London;

C)    approve and execute the amending agreements, additional terms to the MSA and the RNAO proprietary agreements that are consistent with the requirements contained in the PointClickCare MSA and that do not require additional City of London funding or are provided for in the City’s current budget and do not increase the indebtedness or contingent liabilities of the City and in accordance with the City’s Procurement of Goods and Services Policy; and,

iv)    delegate authority to the Deputy City Manager, Social and Health Development and the Dearness Home Administrator to approve and execute other documents which are necessary in relation to the MSA, RNAO proprietary agreements and any future Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care projects that utilize the PCC software that are consistent with the requirements contained in the PointClickCare MSA and that do not require additional City of London funding or are provided for in the City’s current budget and do not increase the indebtedness or contingent liabilities of the City and in accordance with the City’s Procurement of Goods and Services Policy;

d)    the Civic Administration BE AUTHORIZED to undertake all administrative acts which are necessary in relation to this contract and any future Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care projects that utilize the PCC software. (2024-A03)

Motion Passed

2.1   8th Report of the Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee

2024-08-01 AWCAC Report including attachments

That the following actions be taken with respect to the 8th Report of the Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee, from the meeting held on August 1, 2024:

a)    the attached Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee Recommendations Related to Canada Geese document and Habitat Modification and Canada Geese Source Book BE FORWARDED to the Civic Administration for their consideration;

b)    subject to the approval of the Strategic Communications Division, the printing of the Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee Banner BE APPROVED;

c)    clauses 1.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, 5.4 and 5.5 BE APPROVED; and,

d)    the Civic Administration BE DIRECTED to provide the available information to the City Clerk’s Office for distribution with respect to complaints regarding Canadian Geese, including the location of complaints and the frequency of geese and human conflict.

Motion Passed

Additional Votes:

Moved by J. Pribil

Seconded by H. McAlister

Motion to approve a request for delegation status from M. Blosh, Vice-Chair, Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee, to be heard at this meeting.

Motion Passed (5 to 0)

Moved by D. Ferreira

Seconded by E. Peloza

Motion to amend the main motion to add an additional part d):

That the Civic Administration BE DIRECTED to provide the available information to the City Clerk’s Office for distribution with respect to complaints regarding Canadian Geese, including the location of complaints and the frequency of geese and human conflict; it being noted that the attached Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee Recommendations Related to Canada Geese document and Habitat Modification and Canada Geese Source Book has been forwarded to the Civic Administration for their consideration.

Motion Passed (5 to 0)

Moved by H. McAlister

Seconded by S. Trosow

Motion to approve part c) of the amended motion.

Motion Passed (4 to 1)

Moved by H. McAlister

Seconded by S. Trosow

Motion to approve parts a), b) and d) of the amended motion.

Motion Passed (5 to 0)

3.   Scheduled Items

None.

4.   Items for Direction

None.

5.   Deferred Matters/Additional Business

None.

6.   Adjournment

The meeting adjourned at 1:36 PM.

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Okay, everyone, hello and welcome to the 10th meeting of the Community Protective Services Committee. I’ll be calling this meeting to work out. Let’s welcome everybody in council, in council chambers, staff and people at committee. We will begin with the council chambers statement.

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Please contact CPSC at London.ca or call 519-661-2489, extension 2425. I’d like to recognize the members of committee to my right. I have Ward 1, Councillor Hadley McAllister, Ward 5, Councillor Jerry Perbel, Ward 6, Councillor Sam Trusso, and last but not least, our vice chair, Councillor Palosa, Online Ward 12. I will look to committee for disclosures of funerary interest, no disclosures.

So I’ll move to the consent items. I have one pull request for myself. That’s item 2.1, the eighth report of the Animal Welfare Community Advisory Committee. So I am looking for member of the committee to move 2.2 and 2.3 of the consent items.

That’s Councillor Trusso, moving. Councillor Palosa, seconding. I’ll look to committee for any discussion for any of the items. I have Councillor Palosa.

Councillor Palosa, please go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just ever so briefly on item 2.2, being the video streaming and select city of London, arenas for Alliance hockey members as a hockey mom myself.

Thank you for staff for working behind the scenes to make this one possible and doing the agreements with live barn as travel hockey. And we experience in other cities, it does allow family members who can’t join to stream. It allows you to check out the competition if you want. This also has no financial impact directly on the city for cost implications.

And from a tourism point of view, I’ve heard from other hockey parents visiting us that they did have frustration that when they visit other towns hosting tournament weekends, that they had this facility amenity and we did not. So it keeps us more competitive and offers a higher level of quality of service to not only Londoners, but those experience our city. So thank you to staff making this possible and to Alliance hockey for their work on this too. Thank you.

Thank you, Councillor looking to other members of committee who would like to have any remarks on Councillor Pribble. Thank you, Mr. Chair, to the staff. Financials have already been reiterated.

So thank you for that, no cost to the city. The other question I had is once these cameras are, is this just for the tournament and it’s gonna come down? Or is this 365 days? Whenever it’s through the agreement, I don’t see that, maybe I missed it.

Thank you, thank you, Councillor Smith. Thank you and through the chair, I’ll start and then turn it to my staff who are much more knowledgeable about this. But this is for, so this is part of why our partnership with Greater London Hockey Association is when families or individuals register for hockey, they will be a box, they consent to, and they will pay a fee that covers the cost of the equipment and everything. So you’re right, as you and Councillor Pelosi said, there’s no cost to the city.

So they will be able to watch the games, the practices, family, the teams can watch it afterwards. I believe that they can tell me, tell you more details, the games will stay on awhile. So they can look at them as a team and it can help with performance and everything. So that will allow them to watch the games and then they disappear.

So it’s only on during a game and then it’s off. So when we have recreational skating or anything else, these cameras are not on, they’re only turned on and turned off when there is a game. Did I miss anything? Thank you and through the chair, just in addition to that, they are permanent installations.

They are up for the entirety of the season and they would only scream alliance hockey members with the organizations identified in the staff report, including any tournaments, regular season games, playoff games or practices as well. Thank you, Mr. McGonigal, Councillor Pribble. Thank you, I have a full up as well.

Any potential revenue sharing with this organization or any potential to sell them some boards advertising. So there is a revenue for the city. Thank you, Councillor. Back to that.

Thank you and through the chair, we do have an advertising and sponsorship program specifically as it relates to our arenas and rink boards. And like all private industry, they certainly live barn as the live streaming agent for the Greater London Hockey Association can certainly do that. At this time, we haven’t worked on that, but that certainly will be piece of the puzzle going forward. Councillor?

Thank you. And for any potential revenue sharing and I don’t know if we’ve done kind of what they do in the other cities, if it’s strictly the way it’s presented or if there’s any revenue sharing in other municipalities. Thank you and through the chair. We have seen a couple of small opportunities for revenue sharing in some very small municipalities.

But given the fact that the city of London did not go to the marketplace to procure this solution, it was the Alliance Hockey and the Provincial Sport Organization. And so our agreement is with the Greater London Hockey Association who is a registered not-for-profit. And so at this time, we have not had those discussions, but certainly as we continue to implement the solution, there may be opportunities for revenue sharing going forward, but this is the starting place for us. Councillor?

And thank you for that. I’ll finish with a comment as being a father of two boys who were in sports. I think this is a very beneficial. I do like it.

I think it’s a great initiative. I’m just looking into maximizing the opportunities for the city, but the way I heard it, and we’ll be looking into that. And thank you for that. Thank you.

No more questions? Thank you, Councillor. I have Councillor Trozzo next. Thank you, through the chair to staff.

Will the cameras just be fixed on the game, or will it be able to pan through the audience? Thank you, Councillor. Back to staff. Thank you for the question and through the chair.

It is specifically on the field of play, so only on the ice surface. And also the participants understand that by virtue of going on to the ring, they understand that they’re being videoed, and they’ve consented to that. Probably better to get that as part of the documentation for signing up. Thank you, Councillor, back to staff.

Thank you, and through the chair, throughout the Alliance Hockey Member Organization’s registration process, all of their participants have to sign a consent. If individuals do not sign consent, then that particular team of that particular organization that game would not be live streamed. Thank you. Councillor, that’s all the questions.

Thank you. Looking to committee for any further questions, members that haven’t spoken. Okay, I had some questions, but they were already kind of asked by the Councillor, so no questions for me. So we can go to the next item, just calling for the next item on the consent agenda.

If there’s any comments for that? Okay, let’s call the question. Vote yes, Councillor votes yes. Posing the vote, the motion carries, five to zero.

Okay, that is it for consent items. That leaves us to schedule items. We have none, items for direction. We have the one item that was pulled regarding the animal welfare community advisory committee.

I do have the vice chair up in the gallery. She has requested delegation. I would look to committee to see if anyone would like to move for five minutes, moved by Councillor Pribble. Seconded by Councillor McAllister.

No debate on that. Let’s call the question. So votes yes. Posing the motion carries, five to zero.

Vice chair, just tell me when you’re ready and I’ll start the clock and you have five minutes. Okay, thank you. Okay, five minutes starts now. All right, thank you very much.

And thank you for allowing me to speak. I’m here because our chair, Wendy Brown, is unable to attend. And the reason that I’m here is that when we looked at the agenda, we thought maybe it was a little bit unclear why this was coming before you now and what we were asking you to do. So that’s why I’m here was to just basically provide some clarification on those two questions.

So first of all, why is it coming before you now? Back in September, the animal welfare advisory community advisory committee received a delegation from a member of the public who was talking about the geese and complaining about the goose poop on a splash pads. And so that’s what started in. We began to investigate it then and research it.

And that’s the research that’s coming before you today. What we found was there’s an entire manual on your agenda and would like you to use that as a template for how to address the problem because quick fixes like relocating them, relocating the geese a really very short term. The geese are gonna come back. And if they don’t, it’s gonna be other geese coming back.

We felt that changing the habitat is a solution. And there’s a lot of case studies in that manual that talk about specifically the kinds of solutions that will work. So what would we like you to do? What we’d like you to do is direct staff to look at if there’s any complaints that have come into the city?

We don’t know as a committee. If there have been complaints, is this a one time complaint or is it something that’s been happening? Where has it been happening? My guests would be in the parks, particularly around the splash pads, but we don’t really know.

So if you’d staff would compile a list of places that are like hotspots and then we could determine where to implement some of these solutions and see how they work. So that’s why it’s before you at this particular moment and what we’d like you to do. So unless you have any questions, I hope that clarifies it. Thank you, Vice Chair.

So we do have some other recommendations coming from that report. So I’d like to vote on those first and then I do have a motion for the delegation. So I will hand over the chair to the Vice Chair just for that particular part. But right now, the other motions, which would be, okay, the clerk will.

Okay, so right now we are going to vote on part A, the attached animal welfare advisory committee recommendations related to Canada Geese document and habitat modification in Canada Geese source book be forwarded to the civic administration for their consideration. B, subject to the approval of the strategic communications division, the printing of the animal welfare community advisory committee banner be approved and C, clauses 1.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, and 5.4, and 5.5 be approved from the committee report. I would need a mover for that, looking for a mover. This is everything in the report, minus a motion that I’ll be bringing, which I’ll speak to in a second.

So I just looking for a mover, moved by Councillor McAllister, looking for a seconder, seconded by Councillor Trussell, looking to committee for any discussion. Councillor Palosa. Sorry, Mr. Chair, just looking to see what your motion would be as I believe once we deal with receiving the report, it was actually done, and it would be a decided matter of committee.

So just procedurally through the clerk of once we receive the report, we’ve already the delegation of what you’re trying to do. Sorry, just procedurally. Thank you, Councillor. Procedurally, I have an additional motion that’s on top of the report.

So this report would be separate from that motion, but they are linked through to the chair. Do you just want to make an amendment to this motion or is it? I can do it as an amendment, yes. Okay, so I need to hand over the chair to the vice chair.

I have the chair recognizing Councillor Ferra. Thank you, vice chair. So my amendment would be to have staff look into the incidents of goose/human encounters and how many complaints we’ve had submitted to the city with that. That would be per location of where they would occur and the frequency of that.

So we can provide that information to the community advisory committee. And that’s because the community advisory committee is looking to reduce those encounters just because there have been situations, I’m sure we’re all aware of some dangerous situations that can happen between people and the geese that we have here. And they are focusing on the environmental aspect of it all because we can tell that with the signage and other measures that we’ve taken in the past, that hasn’t worked, but with the environmental aspect, just making it not so goose-friendly for geese to hang out in areas, specific areas, we just want to separate those encounters. So that’s what my motion is.

It’s basically, the gist of it would be to just get that data of where the complaints have come in from the community on their encounters with geese. And that data would also include the location and it would be requesting the frequency of how many complaints we’ve had per location. And that motion is an e-scribe as well. So I’ll be moving that and I would look for a seconder.

So if you refresh the e-scribe that is a part D as loaded in their move by Councilor Ferrer, looking for a seconder, the clerk might have to help me as I can’t see chambers. Okay, I’ll second it. So it’s on the floor. Happy to start our speakers list, realizing this is a staff report back to the appropriate standing committee.

Vice chair, I have Councilor McAllister raising his hand. Okay, Councilor McAllister, please proceed. Thank you and through staff. I can now add goose conflicts to my bingo card of things I didn’t think I’d be discussing.

So I’m just genuinely curious, do we even have stats on this? Is this something that’s reported to staff? Yeah, to staff looking for general comments of, do we track this already or how much workload would this actually be putting onto your plates for staff availability? Through you, Madam Chair, Madam— Yup, presiding officer.

Providing officer, thank you. So actually, this is something that Ms. Share’s group is actually taking on right now. They have somebody at the committees, they’re looking at this kind of information.

So their plan was to report back at some point, either through committee or directly to council at some point, likely in the fall, October, November timeframe. Thank you for that. So seems that staff’s already on it within their current workload and complement. Councilor McAllister, would you have a follow-up?

Yes, thank you and through the presiding officer. So I guess my follow-up question, ‘cause it was specifically referenced. The only complaint that I’ve received, it typically about the splash pads. So I’m just wondering in terms of our aquatics staff, is this something we often hear about?

I know it’s the problem with the wave pool, splash pads. But what do we hear from that department? Thanks. Thank you to staff.

Thank you and through the chair, while I don’t have any hard data or stats today, we certainly can say that anecdotally, we hear that on those sites where those splash pads and spray pads are, but we have an incredible aquatic operations teams who inspect those every morning and every day. And so they would deal with it at that time. So I don’t have any hard data for you right now. A lot of things in our world are mentioned to staff on site and can be a little more anecdotal, but we certainly have good strategies in place to keep our spray pads and splash pads as clean as we can for Londoners.

Thank you, Mr. McAllister. All done, my questions, thank you. Okay, looking further questions or comments on this item.

Presiding chair, no one in the chamber has their hand up. Perfect, staying on, calling the question. I apologize. I can tell you.

Vice chair, I think Council Perble has just put his hand up. He may have a question. Perfect, Council Perble. Thank you, I just have a question that’s right now.

We are just really doing the additional motion. We are not going through the original one, correct? Yeah, this is— Just the amendment, correct. The amendment, so part D, yes.

Thanks, a call on the question. Council vote, yes. Closing the vote, the motion carries five to zero. Thank you, is there any further speakers?

As amended, parts A through D. Vice chair, I have Council Perble raising a hand. Procedurally, to the state clerk, as it’s been amended and Councilor Ferrer’s motion is now part of the entirety. Is it procedurally the opportune time to hand back chair?

I believe so. Okay, so happy to do that. So return the chair to Councilor Ferrer, thank you. Thank you, Councilor Palosa, I appreciate it.

I will look to Councilor Perble for his question. Thank you, and I do have a comment and question as well. The comment I will start with under the A, when it says recommendation to our staff when it comes back. And this is actually from the conclusion from the letter of this committee.

You know, that addressing people, the health of the environment and wildlife, if those could be covered in those recommendations and also the financial considerations. I don’t think I don’t need to add this change to motion, but that would be my expectation when it comes back. I know if there is any comment or question from the staff. Thank you, Councilor, I have no comments from staff at the moment.

Okay, thank you for that. And last, because I just, this was, unless I missed it, if it was circulated before, these clauses, there’s the first time I see the motion. And there are certain clauses that are listed here. And it’s inferred me to be approved.

And is this supposed to be from the presentation? So let’s say it’s clause 1.1 from number one, landscape principles to decrease habitat suitability. And then the point one would be reduced slide lines. Is that what it is?

‘Cause as I said, I saw this first time a few minutes ago. Thank you, Councilor. I do not believe we have staff here to answer that question. So from the chair, let me just try to see if I can give some comments on that.

In the consent items, 3.1, and that is the report from the animal welfare advisory committee. That consent item attaches in all of the items for discussion. And the one item specific to the motion that I have put forward is for the Canada geese recommendations. Hopefully that answers your question the best of that again.

Sorry, Chair, it actually does not. So if I look at, is this taken, these clauses? If I look at the presentation that we have attached on page, I’m just trying to see which clause because if I’m approving something, I wanna know at least what I’m approving. One point on page presentation, page 15, there is paragraph one, and there is one, one, two, three, four.

So would I consider 1.1 in this section? Or I’m just trying to figure out what I’m approving. Through the chair, bear with me. I’m going to try to explain this.

I’m not great at explaining things. Part A of the motion relates to part five point, or clause 5.2 on the animal welfare community advisory committee report. Part B of the motion relates to item 5.3 on the animal welfare community advisory committee report. Clause C, or part C of this motion, is approving just the motions within the animal welfare community advisory committee report that didn’t require any action.

So that would be 1.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1, 5.4, and 5.5. And then part D of the motion, the amended motion is the new part that was brought forward by Councillor Ferra. Thank you, so to clarify this. The clause is 1.1.

We are going back to the advisory committee report, just a report. We are not going to the attached agenda that came through that was presented from the presentation that they received in September. So these clauses are virtually just to do two pages, one and two and three of today’s agenda. Okay, I see nothing.

So thank you for that. So right now, to be honest with you, I’m just going to click on a ghost rate. I’m not ready to vote on that. Be approved because now I know what it’s concerning.

So I’ll go through it first. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor, Councillor, or Trustee. I think through the chair, and maybe this is addressed to the clerk, when we receive reports from advisory committees that have in them specific recommendations, for example, what’s on page four through seven of this report at the top, it says recommendation to the city council.

Might it be useful if when we publish the CPPS committee agenda, instead of it just saying, eighth report of the animal welfare advisory committee, that we also indicate that there is specific recommendation language. And in fact, if that’s attached to the agenda, everyone will know exactly what is being proposed. My bigger concern is if a, and this is in general, if a standing committee simply adopted the consent item, two point one, how would the city council and the public know that the recommendation that’s on page four through seven is included in that report? So what I’m suggesting is for clarity, and this has come up before with some of the recommendations from the transportation committee, for example.

I think it would be useful to just attach, does not need to be incorporated into the motion, but it should just say, see attachment, animal welfare committee, advisory committee recommendation to city of London, pages four through seven. In that way, people would know what was behind this, without having to go through other documents that are not on the face of the report. That’s just a suggestion. Thank you, councilor.

I will go to the clerk. The chair, I can speak to this as the clerk for the community and protective services committee, when an advisory committee report is on an agenda, the expectation is that any clauses within that report that have a direction or a request would be pulled out as in the motion that needs to be passed by committee. So if the committee members read the committee reports and see that there is an action item within an advisory committee, then it would maybe be advisable to have that item be pulled. So the committee can discuss what those action items are.

The clerk of the committee, of the standing committee, drafts of motion, pulling those items out as separate items for voting. But you wouldn’t see that until the meeting. As for changing the agenda format to have those motions on the agenda, I would have to defer to the city clerk on that. Thank you.

And I believe we have another take on, yeah. Okay, so Sarah Korman from the clerk’s office also would like to speak to this, so I’ll go to Sarah. Yes, through the chair, Jerry has summarized the process. If there is a change going forward, there is a policy on the general policy for advisory committees coming forward to GWG.

And I suspect if there’s a change in process that it could be discussed at that time. Thank you, Councillor. Thank you, Councillor. I have Councillor Prabell.

You have two minutes and 38 seconds left. Thank you. I understand now which clauses it goes through, but this is the first time we are doing advisory committee and we have some clauses to be approved with actually 4.1, for example, which I would be actually interested what was the dark friendly London, the proposal or something that was presented by Amrist, which again, it was just received. I really don’t see a reason for C.

I don’t believe we’ve ever done that. And I think that for us to approve clauses that actually are even received by the committee, I actually would like the C to be removed and I’m putting a motion to remove clause C in entirely. I don’t see a reason for it. And again, we’ve never done it before.

And again, we are not doing anything to approve 4.1, which I don’t know what it was about, just received. I don’t see any benefit in C at all. Thank you. Which one is C?

Councillor, you can pull that separately if you’d like. The one that— Okay, so I would like to vote separate on C, which lists the five clauses. And again, just for my colleagues, please do look at their report and to really think about it. If this is something that we want to start doing with, and especially if it was just really even just not even approved, just received by the committee, if this is really what we want to start doing with advisory committees, thank you.

Thank you, Councillor, for my understanding, I believe that this is the process, but if you would like to pull C, we can do that and vote on that separately. Are you okay with voting on the other items together, or is it just C that you want to pull out? I’m okay with the other one, so I would like to just pull out C. Okay, thank you, Councillor, we can do that.

Looking to committee for any further questions? Councillor McAllister. Thank you and through the chair. It’s just, ‘cause I’m trying to clarify what Councillor Pribble’s talking about.

I mean, to me, this is just like approving minute meetings. Like there’s nothing, I’m fine with voting on this, because literally it’s just a record of what was discussed at the meeting, and I’ve gone through it, and I mean, one of the items is I’ll lose a talking about the preparation for that event. Like there’s nothing substantial outside of a normal committee discussion, so I’m fine to vote on this. I don’t think there’s anything to be concerned about.

It’s just a housekeeping item. That’s how I view it. Thank you, Councillor. I’ll go back to Councillor Pribble.

You have 54 seconds left. I’ll be very brief. Usually these reports when we receive them, and if it’s something like this and exactly the same way, we just receive it for information. So I really don’t know why we are approving anything, because there’s nothing really to be approved, because again, not even the committee approved it.

They just received it. So I really don’t know why we don’t just receive this, just like from the other committees. One of the clauses will be we receive this for information. Thank you, Councillor.

Just give me a second. I’ll go to Councillor Tresson in a second. Thank you through the chair and to the clerk. Councillor, please, just a second.

I’ll recognize you in a second. Councillor Tresson. Thank you to the chair. I’m referring to the word recommendation in the heading of what was received from the committee.

There is actually a recommendation here, and I think we receive most of the reports from advisory committees we receive don’t have specific recommendations in them, but sometimes they do. And when they do, I think it’s important that we be cognizant of the fact that one of our advisory committees, and this is not just for this, this is in general, one of our advisory committees has made a recommendation, and we need to decide whether or not we want to move that recommendation forward. And we very clearly have a very, very long set of documents that have been appended here, but we also have a much shorter set of three pages that use the word recommendation. And this word recommendation, it appeared.

The entirety of it was in the packet. We all had the chance to read it. I don’t think there’s anything controversial here, but I think we should understand that when an advisory committee comes forth with a recommendation, that’s, they’re asking us to do a little bit more than simply note and file their committee report. Thank you.

Thank you, Councillor. Councillor Pribble, you have 23 seconds. Completely agree with my fellow Councillor Troso and we did the same thing for LTC, this transportation. But the part actually is that I see that there are two recommendations that I went through, which are actually a good positive.

So when I look at these points, that’s not, if I go through them, and as I said, I just received it first, sorry, 15 minutes ago, I just don’t see these recommendations being in these five points that we are approving, but we are approving disclosure of pecuniary interest. We are improving that. We are improving a report for dog-friendly London, which we haven’t received. That’s the part I don’t understand.

Thank you, Councillor. You were out of time. I’ll let you go over about 10 seconds. Looking to the rest of the committee, comments, questions.

Okay, let’s call the vote. This is for everything. With the exception of Part C, Part C will be voted on after this one. First we can.

Yes, please. Okay, we called the vote for C first. Pass the vote, yes. Opposing the vote, the motion carries four to one.

Okay, and we will call the question for the remainder of the items. Pass the vote, yes. Opposing the vote, the motion carries five to zero. That is it for items for direction.

I have nothing for deferred matters or additional business. And that leaves us with the German, looking for a mover to adjourn. Councillor Trussell, seconded by Councillor McAllister. This is a hand vote.

Everyone in favor to adjourn? That motion carries.